At The Inverted World, the inevitable word
(Further down in this entry, I reply to e-mail from the anti-Semitic website Majority Rights.)
Gintas writes:
Oy vey, already the commenting on the “Why I started this Website” article at the new website The Inverted World [discussed here] has degenerated, and I had nothing to do with it. Guess what the main bone being gnawed is? Just guess.
He needs to disable comments and do what you do.
LA replies:
Yes, there is an irony that in starting a website specifically advancing non-anti-Semitic race realism, and attacking Jared Taylor in his inaugural article, the Realist is inviting anti-Semites to respond, thus keeping his website in the milieu from which he wants to escape. My own policy, both with and without the comments feature activated, is not to allow serious anti-Semites to post. I think that the Realist will need to realize that in order to have a useful discussion about anti-Semitism, he will need to exclude anti-Semites.
A creature writes:
I see we’re all talking about one another!
“I think that the Realist will need to realize that in order to have a useful discussion about anti-Semitism, he will need to exclude anti-Semites.”
Isn’t that a comfy little position? You get to define those you can’t answer as beyond the pale and pretend you have the moral high ground at the same time.
It’s funny how your intellectual rigor is inversely related to the subject’s distance from your tender Jewish parts.
LA replies:
In fact, the fondest desire of the anti-Semites, short of their desire to see Jews disappear from the earth, is their desire to get themselves included in relatively mainstream discussion so they will have a chance to get someone other than themselves to listen to their obsessive explanation of the universe. The anti-Semites’ constant undying complaint is that they are being unfairly excluded, because other people can’t handle their great and irrefutable arguments. In fact they are excluded because they are actually are what they accuse Jews of being—a poisonous form of sub-humanity, from which normal humans are instinctively repelled. That is why the anti-Semites’ greatest desire is to be accepted, because acceptance would appear to wipe out the actual reality of what they are.
A few years ago, we had a thread at VFR concerning a pro-Nazi website, the prominently posted slogan of which was “No Jews. Just right.” Several of the supporters of the website including the editor showed up at VFR, said their usual things, and then were outraged that I cut them off. Finally I said to them, You don’t want to have anything to do with Jews, so why are you so eager to post at this website which is run by a person of Jewish ancestry? That shut them up, and I never heard from them again.
No Jew-haters. Just right.
The Realist writes:
I’ve been wondering what to do about anti-Semites commenting at my website. So far I’ve approved almost all the comments coming in—I have the option of deleting them if I want. I will eventually implement a tougher moderation policy, but I’ve been delaying doing this for a few reasons.
First, the comments being posted on my site make my point about the racial right in the U.S. beautifully. There are people who would claim that I am being alarmist and that what I call the theology of Jewish evil isn’t at the heart of the racial right. Well, when swarms of commenters who support every jot and tittle of what David Duke says show up on the site, it makes it harder to argue I’m exaggerating. In fact, the comments show how the anti-Semitic variety of white activism chokes out all healthier breeds, and thus they serve as an allegory of my experience in the racial right.
Second, I think these people deserve some sort of explanation of why I’m going to start deleting their comments. I’m going to start writing columns on anti-Semitism in which the justification will be given. You would think that there would be more important issues for a race realist website to address in its early weeks, but I’ve decided that there really aren’t because anti-Semitism looms so large in our movement. This is the first battle I have to fight in order to clear space for myself.
Third, I sort of hope that more of the readers who object to this sort of thing will start speaking up, as some already have. I can understand why people don’t want to debate with Stormfront types—you’re not going to get through to most of them. But it would be nice if some reasonable people spoke up just for the spirit of the thing.
But I’m open to comments on the matter, which can be sent through the contact form. And besides, we all know that I don’t really have any say over what happens since I am merely the puppet of the secret, sinister Inner Party of Zionists and bankers that really runs the website.
LA replies:
I was expressing my opinion based on my own experience of dealing with commenters at VFR over the years. Each of us has to feel our way through these things in our own way.
However, in my view, as apparently in yours, it’s useful to have some anti-Semites post, because then there is a body of evidence about what they are. I used to do that. People would comment, their comments at first might seem suspicious but not entirely unreasonable and therefore not instantly excludable, so I would engage them. And then, like clockwork, every single time, a person who had seemed suspicious but not entirely unreasonable and therefore not instantly excludable, turned out very quickly to be a total anti-Semite. At that point I would sum up the meaning of what had been revealed and end any direct discussion with that person. But the exchange leading up to that point was useful and remained in the record as evidence of these people’s profile and why it was necessary to exclude them. It became an instinct with me, that certain “sounds” a person made, even if not certifiably anti-Semitic, were a sure sign that there was real anti-Semitism there, and invariably the real anti-Semitism would come out in short order.
Anti-Semitism is an amazing phenomenon and, apart from its badness and disgustingness, very interesting to observe, like a type of exotic fauna or flora. That’s the way to approach it. One does not engage with it. Rather one allows it to expose itself, so that it can be studied scientifically, and also be isolated.
Someone who calls himself David Yates but signs his e-mail GW wrote:
As you may know I am the owner of majorityrights.com. I am saddened that you have chosen to smear an article on my blog about the apparently Jewish-run/owned anti-Taylor scam-site “The Inverted World”. Smearing is an immoral game, and in resorting to it you have fallen well below the studied principle that generally garlands this site.
Likewise, the insult you employed in place of Sviatislav Igorevitch’s name was quite unnecessary. What are your readers to make of you next time you declare your rejection of those naming strategies employed so freely against white-Americans by Jewish culture warriors?
Look, I can accept that Svi’s usage might have raised your hackles. But there was nothing to stop you occupying the high-ground, waving the annoyance aside and engaging with him. MR is broad-based, and you have friends as well as enemies among its commentariat.
Ha you done so, certainly I would have told you that TIW looks very like an crude attempt to delegitimise the Taylor split the field and create an acceptably Judeophiliac WN. White Zionists perhaps, to match the lemming faithful of the Christian variety.
But these things you passed up in favour of the usual cheap word-trick. I hope some, at least, of your readers will see through those words to the moral vacuity within.
LA replied:
The Jewish-run Inverted World? What idiots you people are. Your only categories for understanding the world are, is something Jewish-run or not? In fact that website is not Jewish-run. It came into existence in response to Taylor’s refusal to distance himself from the Nazi-like anti-Semites in the AR circle.
I didn’t read any article at your blog. I don’t read Majority Rights. I was responding to the Jew-hating e-mail sent to me by someone who gave me no name. If he had given me a name I might have referred to him by name.
It’s the same old game from you people. You expect the people you regard as your mortal enemies to “engage” with you, and you feel mistreated if they don’t. You speak of Jews as though they were subhuman repulsive objects, while for yourselves you reserve the sensitivites of a liberal victim group. That you Jew-haters are bent out of shape by a little tough language directed at yourselves makes you laughable.
Posted by Lawrence Auster at December 13, 2006 04:03 PM | Send