L-dotters on the election—it looks as though “Republican optimism” has finally had its day

Below is the thread at Lucianne.com in which commenters respond to Charles Krauthammer’s remark that things are looking up for the GOP. (Also, many comments have come into VFR on the election. They will be posted later in the afternoon.)

Reply 1—Posted by: mercedesops, 11/7/2012 7:04:29 AM

3 men elected Obama—Bill Clinton. Chris Christie and John Roberts.

Reply 2—Posted by: Wetlandz, 11/7/2012 7:07:19 AM

Love you Charles but ”forward’ needs no mandate

Reply 3—Posted by: MattMusson, 11/7/2012 7:07:24 AM

You forgot ABC, NBC, CBS and the NYT.

Reply 4—Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 11/7/2012 7:07:36 AM

The die is cast, the takers outnumber the earners and with the flood of illegal aliens the browning of America continues to accelerate and they will only want and demand more.

This will not stop any time soon it’s the new normal.

The far lefts 50 year plan came to fruition last night.

Now in this presidential term 3 Supreme court justices will reach the age of 80 years old, their replacements will cement the course of this country for many decades to come.

America is lost.

Reply 5—Posted by: beancounter, 11/7/2012 7:09:24 AM

It would have been nice if Romney brought up Clinton’s “the era of big government is over” quote. It just wasn’t in him.

I agree with Krauthammer that the GOP has a lot of young talent that wasn’t quite ready this year. Instead of Rubio I would have mentioned John Kasich, Susana Martinez and Ted Cruz.

Reply 6—Posted by: M2, 11/7/2012 7:10:40 AM

What is he smoking?:

But looking forward, there is not much for Obama to do, according to the Washington Post columnist.

How about appointing 2 SCOTUS justices?

How about bypassing Congress and simply legislating from the White House?

How about EO’s that will affect the FCC’s ability to regulation people like Hannity, Beck and Rush off the air?

How about punishing businesses even more by regulating them out of existence if they don’t toe the socialist line?

How about doing more of what he has done that has destroyed our economy?

How about reparations?

How about his “civilian defense force with as much power as the military”?

How about Valerie Jarrett’s comment that those against Obama will pay and that “it’s our turn now”?

How about Obamacare’s damage to patients and doctors?

How about appointing a “Jobs Czar” into which to funnel more of our money?

How about crippling energy limitations on YOUR thermostat via the EPA?

What can Obama do? He can live out his wet dream to turn America into a third world country?

How about his “revenge”?

Is Krauthammer losing it?

Reply 7—Posted by: FilAm, 11/7/2012 7:13:16 AM

#4 This possibly ,is the worst to come.The Supreme Court will tilt towards the left with the Constitution the biggest casualty.

Reply 8—Posted by: Tucker, 11/7/2012 7:13:58 AM

Nice try, Charles. Not buying it.

Reply 9—Posted by: mainelysane, 11/7/2012 7:16:03 AM

Krauthammer is full of sauerkraut. The takers have won. It’s downhill for the U.S. and for personal and economic freedom throughout the world. Learn to take care of yourself, to protect yourself and your family.

Reply 10—Posted by: Rumblehog, 11/7/2012 7:16:44 AM

The only bright future we have is for my proud State of Texas to secede.

Reply 11—Posted by: Grant Hodges, 11/7/2012 7:18:38 AM

Fer sure. We are now going to be paid back for slavery. Like Bin Laden bombing NY to payback the shame of “Andalusia”. Revenge starts today, my friends. Welcome to Greece. Welcome to Dhimmitude.

Reply 12—Posted by: Kindred Spirits, 11/7/2012 7:19:43 AM

Of course, we are vividly reminded of the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire. Throughout history, no nation has endured as a ‘Super Power’ forever. As Rome was not sundered by outside forces but by internal strife, so too is our Nation sundered by the Balkanization of it’s people. Groups pitted against groups for government treats paid for by forceably taxing the productive citizenery have focused the electorate on small things. What will be required to unite the Nation is a significant emotional event—most unfortunately. As BHO looks to FDR as his role model, consider that the antidote to FDR’s ruinous economic policies was WWII. Pearl Harbor famously galvanized the Nation into Yamamoto’s ‘Sleeping Giant’. With news of Russia’s nuclear submarine laying off the coast of the northeastern US and BHO’s comment that he’ll have more flexiblity after the election to render America’s nuclear arsenal harmless, I fear we are approaching either that ‘significant emotional event’ or utter and complete ruin as a Nation. May God have mercy on us!

Reply 13—Posted by: bubby, 11/7/2012 7:20:13 AM

Little barry doesn’t need a mandate to do what he wants to do. He will just issue a Presidential order and the Republicans in the House/Senate will do absolutely nothing. The 2nd Amendment is now toast. I wonder how he will order us to turn in our guns?

Reply 14—Posted by: centralpagal, 11/7/2012 7:23:23 AM

Was Krauthammer watching the same returns I was? If so, what in hell is he talking about?

We got our asses kicked. At every level, we got spanked. We lost a lot of good people, we lost potential stars like Allen West and Mia Love, we lost Scott Brown. I think, postmortem, we need to stop asking “what is wrong with this country?” (because I think deep down we know EXACTLY what’s wrong), and instead start asking “What can we do to exploit this?”

I am a pro-choice Republican, but I have nothing but respect for the prolife movement. So I say this with all respect t my fellow L-dotters who oppose abortion: rethink your position. These innocent children you work so honorably to defend and protect are the reason for the ever-expanding welfare state. No one in the GOP has the guts to say “no more welfare for out of wedlock births,” so we’re left with one choice: abort them or support them. I know which one I’m choosing.

Reply 15—Posted by: heneverlies, 11/7/2012 7:31:38 AM

Not to worry folks, Obama-Mao can’t run from the deep psycho reality he has been playing all his life with the ghost of his father. He is going to “go out” just like dear old daddy did in Africa, not perhaps in the same manner, but he will be a burn out reality.

This is the second “civil war” for the United States. What do the present victors want? That question has not been answered clearly and decisively. When it does get answered, the next question is can reality marry such wants?

Evil is here, lying at every phase. I warned you people four years ago …

Reply 16—Posted by: god of irony, 11/7/2012 7:36:09 AM

The GOP has NO FUTURE as long as they cede huge blocks of people. The only way forward is to start educating the people that vote on feelings and have the balls to go after liberals personally. Freeze the target and isolate it.

Reply 17—Posted by: steveW, 11/7/2012 7:36:26 AM

It’s ridiculous and certainly counterproductive to paint any kind of positive picture about what just happened. This has to be the biggest, most crushing defeat the Right has ever had in the USA. Spinning it otherwise, turning the other cheek, only avoids the gargantuan problem we face—an electorate so dumbed-down that it will vote for anything the Corrupt Media tells it to vote for. And after Obama stacks the Supreme Court (sooner than you think), socialism in all its oppressive forms will soon be “constitutional”, and there goes the USA. “Quite bright”, Dr. ? No, let’s not fool ourselves today.

Reply 18—Posted by: metalman2, 11/7/2012 7:38:12 AM

In the long run this is the beginning of one party rule. I don’t think the Republican Party will ever recover. If we couldn’t beat Obama we can’t beat anyone. That, and as soon as they can do it the entire medical industry will be unionized. The Democrat party will develop that into a money machine that will keep them in office for ever.

Reply 19—Posted by: Hobbiest, 11/7/2012 7:40:33 AM

Tell me why 3 million people who voted for McCain failed to show up and vote yesterday?

When they finish counting all the votes on the West Coast Obama will have won with about the same number of votes McCain earned in his defeat.

Romney let Obama’s negative ads in the swing states go unanswered all summer long. This is what caused him to lose those states.

Reply 20—Posted by: rplat, 11/7/2012 7:42:05 AM

This guy needs no congress, he will rule by Executive Order. Good luck liberals you’ve just elected your first dictator. Doesn’t it make you proud to be an American?

Reply 21—Posted by: govlawyer, 11/7/2012 7:43:52 AM

Krauthammer was one of the “establisment” during the primary season browbeating us into accepting the “oh-so obvious” fact that Romney was the only way to beat Dear Leader. The good doctor and others like NR were shills for the establishment, and their “status” secure.

We, the great unwashed will be blamed that we didnt’ donate enough, didn’t do enough, etcetra, etcetra, etcetra.

We have to decide do we want to be part of a party that in its heart is really a lite version of the Dems, or do we form into an interest group that needs to be courted for its votes.

Time for some sober and honest debate amongst ourselves.

Reply 22—Posted by: walcb, 11/7/2012 7:45:52 AM

#6 is right and said it better than I could. I can only hope that the House will fight his efforts where they can but it is only hope, I think they will fold. I don’t care if we lose every Presidential battle the House needs to hold there ground on some sort of fiscal line that can’t be crossed.

Reply 23—Posted by: planetgeo, 11/7/2012 7:47:03 AM

Krauthammer is full of it and he knows it. We’re past the tipping point now and the demographics are only going to get worse. The Obamunists used their Cloward-Piven strategy perfectly. Overwhelm the system with massive increases in dependency programs. Reward and increase government workers. And open the borders to unlimited illegal immigration, soon to be permanent Democrat voters.

It really doesn’t matter who our candidates will be. It doesn’t matter how big our crowds are or how much enthusiasm we have. The truth is we are now outnumbered by the parasites. And you can bet the Obamunists are going to make certain their numbers just get bigger.

We are now enslaved and will be working to have the parasites well fed and cared for.

Reply 24—Posted by: Cleanhousein2012, 11/7/2012 7:50:54 AM

The GOP has a bright future?

I for one will work fervently to get a third party to the table. Neither the GOP, nor the candidates it shoves at me will get my support again. I am done holding my nose to vote. Personally, my worst fears about a Romney candidacy have been proven out. Mr. Electable really wasn’t, he was John McCain, without the doddering.

Reply 25—Posted by: congar, 11/7/2012 7:55:59 AM

Goodbye America, Hello Greece!

Reply 26—Posted by: Daisymay, 11/7/2012 7:58:02 AM

First. Charles is wrong and #4 is EXACTLY correct. The “Takers” are now in charge and they will be from now on.

Second. Bob Beckle, of all people, hit the nail on the head last night. He said that the Southern states (FL,VA,NC)were safe Republican states because of the White Vote. NOW … the COUNTRY is majority Brown and they will ALWAYS vote Democrat. I was stunned, but when I thought about it, he made a lot of sense. It doesn’t matter WHO Republicans run for President, we will lose because the BROWN vote will always go Democrat. THEY do not want to lose any of their Government handouts! Thanks to ILLEGAL immigration 20 years ago we now have millions of Hispanics who are of voting age and they came out last night in droves for Obama. Nothing is going to change..ever! I’m thankful I’m 71 and won’t be here to see the decline of my Country!

Reply 27—Posted by: Janjan, 11/7/2012 8:03:41 AM

I don’t care about this country anymore. I just live here.

Reply 28—Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 11/7/2012 8:04:05 AM

Is he on drugs? Two huge minorities voted for the guy and the party who will give them free phones, free food and housing? GOP has a bright future? How? By promising welfare moms we’ll give them more stuff?

Reply 29—Posted by: cobieone, 11/7/2012 8:08:37 AM

Charles is dead wrong. Zero has never concerned himself with the Constitution or Congress. This was a butt whipping, simple as that. The Republicans in the House will see this as “the people have spoken” and will give Obama what he needs to “move forward”. Don’t blame the Republicans. America voted and this is evidently what we want. That is exactly how the Republicans will see it. It’s the American voters fault, not the Republicans. We lost guys and it’s hard to see how we can turn things around at this point. Very sad for my country.

Reply 30—Posted by: noparallel, 11/7/2012 8:11:09 AM

I don’t read anything Chuck says. He lost his cred years ago. This wasn’t a defeat of the “Right.” Mittens was a moderate, establishment Republican. Those that compared him to Reagan are fools. What did he do as Governor that was so Reaganesque?

Now let’s find a real conservative who can articulate their positions for the bumper sticker media.

Reply 31—Posted by: dman, 11/7/2012 8:17:40 AM

Sorry, Charlie. This was the GOP’s election to win, and they blew it. They are Losers.

They left Benghazi, Iran, Sandy, LSM bias, and election fraud on the table. They had an army of Tea Partiers that they brushed aside. Where where the massive Tea Party rallies this year? Where was the RNC helping to organize them? The RNC claimed an aggressive ground game to compete with the Dems. Where was it?

Like Lincoln fired McClellan, it’s time to fire the RNC. They will try to hide behind the legacy of Reagan, but remember that Reagan won despite the GOP Establishment’s best efforts. He was one of us—not one of them. Romney was typical of the RINO broccoli that they ask us to consume, in the grand old tradition of Dewey, the Bushes, Dole, and McCain.

It’s time to assemble a new team with new coaches. It’s time for a new party.

Reply 32—Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 11/7/2012 8:17:40 AM

This is the start of one party rule, socialism and dictatorship. We have lost the Republic and no Republican will ever again become president. I am sorry I lived long enough to see this.

Reply 33—Posted by: lilo, 11/7/2012 8:20:11 AM

Who exactly did the vote counting? Someone somewhere said it was outsourced to Spain. And doesn’t it seem rather peculiar that nearly every must win seat, or turn was defeated. It wasn’t an election, the fix was in, pure and simple, and that is why Obama didn’t care that he campaigned badly. He just gamed everyone who bought into his schtick.

Reply 34—Posted by: upstate54, 11/7/2012 8:20:51 AM

I agree with many posters—the tipping point has passed and the takers will continue to grow and win every election. It may be too late for the young bloods in the Republican Party. As one poster put it—if we couldn’t defeat someone as obviously bad as obama, whom can we defeat? Our son is twenty and I worry so much about his future.

Reply 35—Posted by: pomom, 11/7/2012 8:26:55 AM

#9 expresses my feelings this morning. Romney was right about the 47%’ers. I’m proud to have supported him.

I hope Marco Rubio is sharpening his talents because I see him as a bright spot in an otherwise bleak future for the GOP.

If Chris Christie suddenly starts losing weight, watch out, he’s aiming for 2016. He will NEVER get my vote.

I am so ashamed to be from Ohio today, I can’t tell you.

Reply 36—Posted by: TheMotherCO, 11/7/2012 8:27:35 AM

Dr. K is one of the smartest men ever on the news shows and off of them. Third party would go nowhere and leave the dems in full control. Not smart. There is no accounting for taste in electing the dumbest prez we ever have had. I agree with one poster with the idea of freebies for the lazy black and brown illegals. I do think that the news media not mentioning Benghazi had a big part in election

Reply 37—Posted by: BarryNo, 11/7/2012 8:28:12 AM

Charles—He doesn’t care if he has a mandate. He rules by the stroke of a pen. The Senate will not deny him. Taxmagedon, Obamaare, Our nuke force will be erased. He will sign treaties that the Senate will not gainsay.

Julius Caesar at least looked out for his own interests and needed a strong Rome. This bum is punishing the U.S. for daring to be free and inventive. He doesn’t need a mandate, and don;t be surprised if he finagles an ‘extension’ to the Presidency like Chavez did.

Providing we still HAVE a country at that point.

Reply 38—Posted by: Aria, 11/7/2012 8:29:16 AM

Sorry, Charlie.

Three Words:

The Supreme Court

Two more words:

I’m done.

Reply 39—Posted by: bobn.t, 11/7/2012 8:34:51 AM

#20 is correct.America just re-elected its first dictator. The America-hating, socialist, muslim, negroid monster will destroy this country.

Reply 40—Posted by: pineledger, 11/7/2012 8:38:40 AM

That’s great, but I’m taking my capital gains this year.

Reply 41—Posted by: TLCary, 11/7/2012 8:41:02 AM

There is no bright future for the GOP without a bright future for America.

Going forward we will not have the numbers to win a national election. The birth rate in pro-socialist communities will permanently change that balance.

Charismatic candidates or a tanked economy won’t overcome that.

So, lets get to work on a plan to win the war, and not just an occasional battle. Remember how happy we were when we beat back Hilary Care? Yeah … We need a new plan.

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