L-dotters thumb down on our “victory” in Libya

(Are the L-dotters criticizing the rebel victory only because Obama was connected with it? See exchange with a commenter.)

I used to say that the commenters at Lucianne.com represented the Id of the Republican party. If that is still true, then Republicans/conservatives are a lot more alert to the meaning of “democracy” in the Muslim world than anyone had imagined. The L-dotters’ response to the Libyan rebels’ victory is almost unanimously negative, and all for the same reason: they see the rebels not as liberal democrats but as Muslim Brothers and al Qaeda types:

Reply 1—Posted by: metalman2, 8/22/2011 12:20:55 AM

I can’t figure out why people think getting rid of these despots and dictators in the middle east is a good thing. Can’t help but think this is Obama’s way of bring his Muslim brothers to power and, ultimately, endangering Israel.

Reply 2—Posted by: NotaBene, 8/22/2011 12:50:46 AM

Now Hussein has secured a clear path for the Muslim Brotherhood from Gaza to Egypt to Algeria. All of North Africa. Great leading from behind, Bro. Since McCain is happy, you should worry.

Reply 3—Posted by: Spidey, 8/22/2011 6:09:19 AM

I think all this crap is about mob rule and a prelude of what’s to come here.The lack of police action in the UK riots is a very bad sign and these people weren’t even peaceful protesters but pure criminals. Eric Holder has already warned police dept’s in this country not to abuse minorities.

I don’t read every story in the country but I don’t remember seeing any of these flash mob looters in concealed carry states yet.The 2nd amendment is the only thing standing in the way of Obama anarchy.

There’s a booming business out west on building underground bunkers for people.Haven’t heard anything about the government building “low income” underground housing yet.

Reply 4—Posted by: provide, 8/22/2011 6:37:09 AM

All these mobs believe the victory was possible because Allah wished it. Just listen to the under breath quickies. The outcome of the Arab Spring will be like South Africa; single tribe rule with gang enforcers.

Reply 5—Posted by: cake crumb, 8/22/2011 6:46:03 AM

Yet another terrorist takeover by the Muslim Brotherhood, at at Barack Hussein’s insistence and the American people’s expense. Barack Hussein never ceases to amaze: first he destroys an ally, and then he destroys if not an ally, someone who was no longer actively an enemy. So far he’s even with Carter on that score.

Reply 6—Posted by: neanderthal, 8/22/2011 7:10:54 AM

You Ldotters are right (as usual). This ain’t no democracy movement. When the smoke clears, Obama’s buddies, the Islamic Crazies will have the hammer.

Reply 7—Posted by: uno, 8/22/2011 8:03:20 AM

It looks a lot like the rise of the new National Socialist Arab Workers’ Party in the Middle East and Europe that embraces totalitarian and expansionist policies hellbent ultimately on conquest, domination and/or the elimination of “lesser” races.

Reply 8—Posted by: Judith, 8/22/2011 8:11:04 AM

Watching fox news last night as they proclaim the victory of obama. The repeated claims of how far superior THIS war was to Bush’s war. I have had it with fox news.

Reply 9—Posted by: Felixcat, 8/22/2011 8:12:15 AM

As I posted when this all first started -some five months ago—that a litle bitty part of me was quietly rooting for Ghadaffi and still is …

No, Ghaddaffi doesn’t deserve our sympathy or anything—he should have been dealt with 20 years ago, but wasn’t. However, we could at least deal with him now, or at least the Bush Adminsitration was able to deal with him. No cheering here as we’ve just replaced one tyrant with many more and the worse kind—religious fanatics.

Reply 10—Posted by: upchuck, 8/22/2011 9:08:21 AM

Ghadaffi with all his warts had his moments with the United States but was not a threat to us. This was an act perpetrated by Obama for his muslim brotherhood to control the entire region. I wished Ghadaffi could have killed more the the bearded muslim rats as he called them.

The muslim brotherhood brings nothing in the form of a democracy to the table in that region. They bring nothing but chaos and murder. The seventh century rock throwing heathens are just planning to line up on the Israelis border to start their own ‘final solution’. The Arab Spring may well turn out to be a Nuclear Winter that Obama supported.

Reply 11—Posted by: lana720, 8/22/2011 9:08:43 AM

Caliphate. Coming.

Be very afraid and vigilant. Our leader is still leading from behind and encouraged this all along.

God help us!!!

Reply 12—Posted by: Richwill, 8/22/2011 9:45:06 AM

Ditto to all the previous posts. Add Libya to the list of Hussein’s accomplishments. Just think, he does it all while golfing and on vacation. He truly is the messiah.

Reply 13—Posted by: spengler, 8/22/2011 9:54:52 AM

… And what did Mo do that threatened our national security to the point the marxist dictator posing as our president had to violate the War Powers Act?

The Libyan leader’s only sin was not playing ball with the Cartel. The Cartel then used its military arm, NATO, to attack Libya. This morning, the Italian Oil fat cats were already moving in on the “liberated” oil fields.

“Dick’s” BS excuse taht we have an “R2P” does not warrant American treasure spent in the name of the corrupt international cartel which currently owns and controls the US Government. If there was ever a classic case of government-controlled media, high crimes and misdemeanors, you have it in front of you now. “Dick” must go. Impeach!

Reply 14—Posted by: rancherjack, 8/22/2011 10:03:40 AM


Repeat after me. Always … follow … the…. money.

An avalanche of paper trails prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Bolshevik Revolution, and the subsequent Communist takeover of Russia was funded by-and-for select Wall Street firms bent on control of Russia’s vast natural resources; an equal avalanche of paper trails proves Hitler’s “economic miracle” between 1933 and 1938 was actually an injection of Wall Street cash roughly equal to the current “stimulus”. Wall Street sought to gain control of German engineering, science and manufacturing genius. Thought they had a leash on the Mad Austrian.

Third, and even more critical was Brown Brothers Harriman and select players who sought to dislodge the British from Arabia for the oil resources, and install their hand picked “king” to rule in their name. They did this by funding and arming a nasty little bunch now known as the Muslim Brotherhood. They also funded a renegade, disgraced sect called Wahabbi for the king to use as a bludgeon.

Welcome to Tripoli. You’re up to speed.

Reply 15—Posted by: Onehumanbean, 8/22/2011 10:12:03 AM

What’s R2P and who is “Dick”

Reply 16—Posted by: Tesla, 8/22/2011 10:22:37 AM

What 13 and 14 said

Reply 17—Posted by: prospector4au, 8/22/2011 10:22:56 AM

I’m optamistic about Libya! The ‘rebels’ have the oil and they have warned Russia, China and Brazil HANDS OFF!~ They appear to like Western partners with oil companies….

Reply 18—Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 8/22/2011 10:24:33 AM

And when do those lovely folks in the Muslim Brotherhood and affiliated gangs begin to surface?

Reply 19—Posted by: planetgeo, 8/22/2011 10:28:24 AM

Well, to see where this is going just connect the dots. What do all these Obama-assisted revolutions have in common?

1) All the “tyrants” (Mubarak, Khadafi) have been generally friendly or at least cooperative with the West.

2) They were relatively stable, law-abiding countries.

3) At worst, they were secular, not Islamic governments.

4) Notably untouched by Obama are the most virulently anti-US tyrants in Syria, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela.

Now let’s watch what these “new democracy movements” will evolve into. I’m betting it will be: Islamic, anti-US, Anti-Israel, militant dictatorships.

Reply 20—Posted by: spengler, 8/22/2011 10:40:14 AM

General FYI:

“Dick” is Dick O’Bama, aka The Dick.

R2P is the Progressive/Cartel “Responsibility to Protect” phrase to describe how various arab people need “protecting” from their cruel despots. Of course, these despots will be replaced by Cartel-friendly despots.

Reply 21—Posted by: citoyen, 8/22/2011 10:56:51 AM

I’m glad this odious dictator is gone. I don’t really care that his departure happened during the Obama administration. If the identical events that transpired in Libya these past six months had occurred when Bush was president we’d all be cheering instead of griping and complaining. So far, another military success for Obama. He’ll take the credit for sure but it will have been forgotten in a few months.

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M. Jose writes:

In your post about the ouster of More Maw Gay Daffy (hey, if there is no single standard transliteration, let’s at least have fun with it), you wrote:

If that is still true, then Republicans/conservatives are a lot more alert to the meaning of “democracy” in the Muslim world than anyone had imagined.

Or they just choose whichever way of thinking makes Obama look bad.

I must say that I doubt that they are unhappy about the Libyan situation on principle, other than the principle that Obama must be wrong. That last comment about how these same people would be cheering if this had happened under Bush seems quite astute to me.

LA replies:

While what you say is probably true to some extent, overall I don’t agree. Their criticisms are not primarily aimed at Obama, but at the idea that the people we’re helping in Libya are jihadists. That shows an awareness of the nature of Islam that for the most part they would not have picked up from the mainstream Republican / conservative media. It is a point of view that has come mainly from Islam critical websites. The fact that the L-dotters even have this knowledge is surprising and puts them outside the usual Republican versus Democrat partisanship.

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