Lou Dobbs contra Bush on immigration

Lou Dobbs, writing in the ultra liberal Philadelphia Inquirer of all places, takes apart President Bush’s immigration policy. And get this. Orrin Hatch has proposed a “Dream Act” which would allow states to grant in-state tuition to children of illegal aliens. Meanwhile, Dobbs says, out-of-state legal parents of legal residents would get no such break. Don’t those Republicans just crack you up?

Posted by Lawrence Auster at January 03, 2004 01:40 AM | Send
    
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Seven states already grant in-state tuition to children of illegals. I’m not sure if the children need be born in the U.S. I believe California and Illinois are two such states.

Posted by: Barry on January 3, 2004 11:42 AM

Over 70 percent of elderly Chinese immigrants in California receive Supplemental Social Security (SSI), even those that came over here after their working careers were over and didn’t contribute to the program their helping to bleed dry.

Republicans should use wedge issues such as this to bring in a greater percentage of the white vote, a la the [Steve] Sailor Strategy.

And blacks are even more avid enthusiasts for restricting immigration, as they generally more directly compete with them for the bottom rung, low-wage jobs.

It’s a two-fer issue: legitimately channel sub rosa white anger into the Republican Party and give blacks a reason for doubting their self-appointed leaders and looking to the Republicans for answers.

It’s not just a no-brainer to me: Dick Morris never understood why the Stupid Party, back in 1992, didn’t use their natural arsenal of such wedge issues.

G-d only knows the Left doesn’t hesitate to use theirs. (And immigration is the main cause of income inequality, too. Come to think of it, the issue’s a three-fer.)

Posted by: Brent Anderson on January 4, 2004 7:43 AM

“…their [sic]helping to bleed dry”. Ouch. Sorry for the grammatical error.

Posted by: Brent Anderson on January 4, 2004 7:46 AM

I don’t think Bush’s reelection would do much to halt or significantly reform illegal immigration. The latest “immigration reform” plan from the administration includes stealth amnesty for the 8-12 illegal aliens currently in our country and a program through which employers could import as much cheap labor as they wanted if there were no “Americans willing to take the jobs”. Apparently there would be some internet system listing job openings and if Americans did not gobble these jobs up an employer would be free to import “broadbacks”. This also assumes the border will be effectively sealed.

The prevailing theory is that this is just a “head fake” by Bush to pull more of the hispanic vote. This may be true. Even so I’m not convinced EITHER party is truly serious about meaningful immigration reform.

What is truly needed is a NEW PARTY. One that really really truly represents the interests of the electorate. Including and perhaps especially the unmentionable WHITE majority. Right now the average working white American has no where to turn. Both parties know this. Do we choose Bush’s big government pro-immigration conservatism or the multiculturalist America hating pro-immigration left?

There was a great column yesterday at vdare.com entitled “Gunfight at the Immigration Reform Corral”. I’m basically just restating it here.

Posted by: Barry on January 4, 2004 11:58 AM

Brent Anderson wrote,

“It’s not just a no-brainer to me: Dick Morris never understood why the Stupid Party, back in 1992, didn’t use their natural arsenal of such wedge issues. G-d knows the Left doesn’t hesitate to use theirs.”

They didn’t use it, and they don’t use it and never will, because on a certain level they’re the same bunch of cronies running things together with each other. This is symbolized by Mary Matalin’s marriage to James Carville. It’s a game to them (a game in which they all make outrageous amounts of money of course, otherwise not a single one of them would be playing). At a social gathering, Pres. Bush would find the company of Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary, John Kerry, or Howard Dean far more agreeable than that of any true conservative or, ESPECIALLY, that of any traditionalist of the VFR school.

Barry wrote of the eight to twelve million illegal aliens in the country whom the Bush-Fox Administration wants to amnesty. I recall that about three years ago the upper estimate on the number of illegals here was twelve million. The upper estimate on the number of illegals who continue to pour across the border annually is 800,000 to 1,200,000. Therefore until it is proven otherwise, I shall consider there to be fifteen million illegals in this country. Bush says his plan calls for amnestying only three million of those fifteen million, I believe. But we all know he intends sooner or later, one way or another, to amnesty every single one of the fifteen million, plus the additional millions who’ll have poured across in the interim. Bush’s dream is a majority-Hispanic United States. Who knows why!

Posted by: Unadorned on January 4, 2004 12:37 PM

Unadorned’s observation about the company Bush would keep at social gatherings is dead right. Which is why it is important to vote for Democratic candidate if the elections is close. If Bush will clearly win, then a vote for conservative candidate would be the best choice.

Posted by: P Murgos on January 4, 2004 3:22 PM

“Bush’s dream is a majority-Hispanic United States. Who knows why!”

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Call it conspiratorial, if you like. Call it fringe thinking, if you like. The reason Bush (THE Bushes) want a Latinized America, I think, is to pursue their own dynastic dreams. Look at the family of Jeb and his half mexican son, George P., who has already been displayed before the nation—back in the 2000 election. And Jeb himself has already converted to Roman Catholicism, hasn’t he? There you have it. An old line Yankee aristocratic family that has morphed itself into a radicalized Latin dynasty. It now looks like the “new America”, speaks the new Americans’ native language, and has even adopted the religion of the new Americans.

Posted by: paulccc on January 4, 2004 8:22 PM

To paraphrase Howard Dean, that’s an interesting theory, but I think it threatens to trivialize the issue. The ruling powers of our society and much of public opinion have moved in the direction of open borders, inclusion, transnationalism and so on. Presumably Paul is not saying that all the other open-borders advocates have some Hispano-Catholic dynastic aspirations. So how do we explain _their_ motives?

We must understand that we are facing a fundamental crisis in our civilization. The way particular individuals accommodate themselves to, or try to take advantage of, that crisis is of strictly secondary interest. Focussing on some supposed Bush family dynastic urge does nothing to help resist the immigration disaster.

Posted by: Lawrence Auster on January 4, 2004 8:49 PM

I must tell you that I am extremely disappointed in Mr. Bush and I also very betrayed since he has broken his inauguration oath of office, as stated in Article II, Section I, Clause 8 of the U.S. Constitution:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states: “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.”

He is obviously not defending the constitution. California and many other states are in the process of being invaded by Mexico. Bush would rather pander for the Hispanic vote and the admiration of Vicente Fox, then do what he swore to do, protect us from an invasion, an invasion of poor, illiterate, illegal aliens from Mexico. There has been talk, on many radio and television shows, that Bush may have something more sinister up his sleeve. That is, to open up our borders with Mexico and Canada, and give away our sovereignty, as Vicente Fox has requested. I wonder…

Doesn’t Bush know that before we can expand or try to fix the current guest worker program, the borders must be tight as a drum? This is the big flaw in his proposal. I feel (and I know many more Republicans feel this way too) that this will only encourage more illegals to enter the US, drive wages down and over tax the middle class to help pay for the significant present and future burdens on our infrastructure (schools, hospitals, roads, welfare, Medi-Cal, etc.) to support the millions of illegals that are already here and the majority of the Mexican population that are intent to come to the U.S (most to California). Instead of sending $15 billion dollars home each year, illegals will probably double that amount in the next decade, draining this country of additional revenue. Also, I have heard that Bush’s guest worker program may also extend into the high-tech arena, thus providing companies a way to boost corporate profits by hiring foreign programmers and engineers. This is the financial equivalent of “dumming done” America. I’m 50 years old and I bet if this is approved, America will become a “third world nation” in my lifetime. May God help us all.

I have voted for Republicans all my live. This will be the first time I will not vote for a Republican President and I will not vote for any other republican candidate that supports this crazy guest worker program. I have done my homework and I know what this proposal is all about and its potential harm to this country’s culture and future. I have joined the minions of patriotic Americans who will be victorious in helping defeat this future bill in Congress.


Posted by: Randy on January 22, 2004 2:42 PM
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