speaking of the elect who once again just drove over a cliff in their one clylinder brains in definate need of a timeup, justin raimondo fills us in on the gory details of tom delay and his compatriots’ latest headlong fall into the depths of the abyss, better known as the amen corner.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html

Mr Auster wrote:
“Who else is critiquing the insane Democratic left today, other than the neocons? The paleocons are certainly not doing so. Another example of how the antiwar paleocons, acting out of their own set of irrational hatreds and resentments, have abandoned the field of rational political discussion to the neocons.”

Mr. Auster describes an abstract circumstance, and Abby provides a concrete example. You’ve gotta love the collaboration at VFR.

Yes. VFR is a living laboratory of political science. We provide both the theory and—thanks to the total lack of self-consciousness of posters such as Abby—the experimental proof.

gee, and here i was thinking i was critiquing the democratic left, sometimes i have a some difficulty telling the difference between the two parties. as if there was some understandable difference between the two other than looking to see who is buttering their toast.

let’s just say i was critiquing those who are to the left, sans dem., of those who are rational on the right and leave it at that.

the rational ones are of course to the right of the neocons, because neocon rational political discussion has to be a chart topper in the oxymoron hall of fame.

Has Mr Raimondo, of the infamous antijew.com site, managed to figure out that sodomy is against the law of nature and God yet? Until he does, I will continue to be amused at people claiming to be conservatives posting links to his propaganda.

Posted by: Shawn on June 23, 2003 04:11 PM
“…Until he does, I will continue to be amused at people claiming to be conservatives posting links to his propaganda.”

my dear shawn, i never claimed to be a conservative, but i will claim there are few on the web to equal raimondo’s skill with a pen.

Posted by abby at June 23, 2003 04:41 PM

“i never claimed to be a conservative,”

That explains a lot.

“but i will claim there are few on the web to equal raimondo’s skill with a pen.”

Skill? Raimondo does little more than weave together conspiracy theories to justify his notion that Israel and America should surrender to Islamic imperialism. Raimondo is the kind of “American” that must warm the heart of Osama bin Laden. He is to militant Islam what Stalin’s “useful idiots” were to Soviet Communism.

“It seems to me that in confronting the forces that attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the United States has no sane alternative but to wage war; and wage it with unflinching resolution.
Notice I don’t say reprisal or revenge. What I mean is self-defense protecting the United States from further attack by destroying those who would launch them.
There is a certain quarter of opinion in the United States we certainly hear from them at NPR who, perhaps still in shock, seem to believe that the attacks against New York and Washington were natural disasters: horrible, spontaneous whirlwinds that struck once, and will not reoccur.
This is wrong. It is even inexcusably foolish. The United States has been targeted for destruction. To reconcile ourselves in any way with the blind souls who flew against New York and Washington and who have other targets within their sites now is to hand our own lives over into wickedness.
I’m glad to see reporting now that asks, “Why do they hate us?” We need to hear the complaints of those who experience U.S. foreign policy, sometimes at the blunt end. But I would not want our increasing erudition to distract us from the answer that applies to those who are now physically attacking the United States: They hate us because they are psychotics. They should be taken no more seriously as political theorists than Charles Manson or Timothy McVeigh.”

Scott Simon, a former Quaker and Pacifist.

“It seems to me that in confronting the forces that attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the United States has no sane alternative but to wage war, and wage it with unflinching resolution. … destroying those who would launch [more attacks]. There is a certain quarter of opinion in the United States — we certainly hear from them at NPR — who … seem to believe that the attacks against New York and Washington were natural disasters: horrible, spontaneous whirlwinds that struck once, and will not recur. This is wrong [and] inexcusably foolish. The United States has been targeted for destruction. To reconcile ourselves in any way with the blind souls who flew against New York and Washington and who have other targets within their sights now is to hand our own lives over into wickedness.”

This portion of the quote posted by Shawn is an excellent statement of the most important idea, or realization, changing me from an opponent to a supporter of the attack on Iraq. Many will view the above statement as a no-brainer. But some of us had to be woken up, so to speak — had to think things through and finally realize the simple points being made here.

Un, could you tell us when you had this change of view and what you were reading/hearing that brought it about?