New poll

In last week’s poll, 30% thought militant fundamentalist Islam the greater danger to America, 70% human rights ideology. There were 50 votes.

We have a new poll—do vote!
Posted by Jim Kalb at June 17, 2002 08:31 AM | Send


You might be interested in one intrusion of liberal modernity into the Church here in Australia.

According to a report in the Melbourne Herald Sun (18th June) members of one congregation have been banned from praying for other parishioners by name because it contravenes the Government’s privacy laws.

Posted by: Mark Richardson on June 18, 2002 7:53 AM

I hope the conflict would restore the traditional Church in America and Abroad. The Church needs a restoration to traditional ways…

…it starts with the Latin Mass.

Posted by: Matteo on June 18, 2002 7:36 PM

I am a little confused by the question concerning the outcome of the conflict in the Catholic Church “between traditional orthodoxy and liberal modernity.” Where is their any traditional orthodoxy in the current conflict? As the coverage of the Dallas bishops’ meeting has amply shown, it’s a disagreement between liberals (the bishops) who want to keep covering up their sins and their dissent from Catholic doctrine, and radicals who want to “open up” the Church to married priests, publicly homosexual priests, and so on.

Posted by: Lawrence Auster on June 18, 2002 7:49 PM

The basic conflict is that between the doctrine that is formally authoritative and the institutional Church in America. In Dallas of course the bishops did not permit that conflict to become explicit.

Posted by: Jim Kalb on June 18, 2002 8:15 PM

Lawrence is right, as there is few and far between traditional orthodoxy to be found. One of a few bishops who keeps traditional orthodoxy is the Bishop of Lincoln, His Excellency Bishop Bruskewitz.

Posted by: Matteo on June 19, 2002 10:54 AM

More traditional Catholics are forced to sit and watch, but have little impact on the whole thing. You can see comments from the bleachers on Touchstone’s site:

Posted by: Jim Carver on June 19, 2002 1:02 PM

Traditionalists anywhere with a stake in anything are margnialized and forced to sit, watch, and complain in America. There is nothing special about the American Catholic Church in this regard. One might hope that there would be something special, that orthodoxy would be taken seriously, but clearly it is not and the current bishops with perhaps one exception are part of the problem. As with all entrenched liberalisms we have to wait for the disease to destroy itself. That it will ultimately do so is a certainty, though.

Posted by: Matt on June 19, 2002 1:53 PM
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